Trek Stuff

[zvi]

Some story recommendations for you, Dear Readers:

• Necessity by iulia_linnea One perspective on Spock, the re-establishment of the Vulcan species, and Uhura
• What We Don't Talk About by ellen_fremedon. Another perspective on the same thing. This feels more canonical and less hopeful to me than the previous story.
• Two Sides by circadienne. How Uhura's life with or without the Nero Incident winds up in the same place.
• Patterns by teaphile Spock/Uhura at the Academy
• Fish In The Sea by helens78 Sulu and Uhura fuck a guy in their academy days. Sheer hotness!
• Precious Things series by haearnmouse Really spectacular original character stories dealing with the Vulcan Recovery. Every story in this series makes me tear up.

Two requests, Dear Readers: One, where are people posting Trek icons? I've seen bunches, and even been given one, but I haven't come across The One that will be my Trek:AOS icon yet. Two, people should get cracking on Spock/Uhura/McCoy stories. That threesome works for me ever so much better than Spock/Uhura/Kirk, because of the way that Uhura doesn't really like Kirk. (I imagine that hilarity might ensue because McCoy is sleeping with Spock and Uhura, but has also been Kirk's backup date a lot, and when Kirk finds out that McCoy has managed to score with Spock and Uhura, he jumps up and down flapping his arms about how awesome he is and everyone should want to sleep with him and WHAT THE FUCK, BONES, why won't you get me in on that action? And Leonard is like, "The reason they don't want to sleep with you is, in no small part, because you say things like, 'Get in on that action', when referring to having sex with other sapient beings.")

And, lastly, some thoughts on AOS!Spock vs. TOS!Spock (aka Spock Prime). (AOS stands for Alternate Original Series) Spock Prime's approach to his genetic and cultural heritage appears to have been to internally assimilate the criticisms of the Vulcans around him (and, query, if Sarek is an Ambassador, why did Spock wind up growing up so much on Vulcan? instead of as an embassy brat, I mean), defining himself as a Vulcan man, and surpressing anything he might perceive as human, and attributing self-defined flaws as human traits.

It seems to me that AOS!Spock has taken a more balanced approach, where he identifies as a Vulcan, but he is comfortable with his human heritage and can adopt human behaviors where they will serve him better than Vulcan ones. He is clearly comfortable having public emotional reactions (kissing Uhura on the transporter pad, the snarky exchange with Bones about weeping in the hallways, even telling Kirk that he'd really prefer to blow Nero to little bits to offering him a chance for surrender.) It doesn't seem as if this Spock defines the simple display of emotions as a lack of control.

I must admit I like this change quite a bit, but I am also at something of a quandary as to how the First Nero Incident has brought it about. Did Spock get shipped off to hang with his human cousins on occasion? Were Vulcan embassies smaller, so that Spock interacted with more members of different species than he did in the original timeline? Did something about the destruction of the Kelvin change Amanda, so her interaction was different?

It would be awesome to get some fic-cish answers to these questions. I am just saying.

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[twtd]

I've been finding my icons on trekicons

[zvi]

Thanks for the poiner!

[onceupon]

I am pretty much only a consumer of fic, rather than a producer, but I seriously echo the desire for some Spock/Uhura/McCoy stories. There's just something about Bones.

She Lives! And Posts!

[willow]

In the books I read growing up, Sarek spent much of his time on Earth, whereas Amanda raised Spock on Vulcan and thus part of the reason he turned so much to his Vulcan heritage was because he was proving himself to be Vulcan despite his primary care giver being human.

It made the books background of the teasing and insults to his mother and how he ended up choosing a lot of traditional Vulcan rites of passage, etc, make perfect sense to me.

Given that we see Spock as a child in New!Trek and then as an adult, we really don't know what happened between the period of him losing his shit and beating up bullies and him being accepted to the Academy.

However, given my fuzzy memory on some stuff in the books, I have to admit to being shocked Amanda was allowed into the council room where Spock was accepted and declined and I was further shocked she was with her husband in the Elders Conclave while Vulcan was being destroyed.

Note: I don't know how TNG hand-waved it, but the episode where Sarek bonded to Jean-Luc always had me thinking he married a second human woman named Amanda - cause I couldn't figure out how Amanda could be so fit when Sarek was near 200.

Edit: Icon, ETA

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[ellen_fremedon]

Note: I don't know how TNG hand-waved it, but the episode where Sarek bonded to Jean-Luc always had me thinking he married a second human woman named Amanda - cause I couldn't figure out how Amanda could be so fit when Sarek was near 200.

That wasn't Amanda, in TNG-- that was Sarek's second human wife, and her name was Perrin.

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[willow]

Thank you!

I went to check Wikpedia because I was initially 'It couldn't have been Amanda'. But the only wife they mention IS Amanda, so I figured it was my memory going whacky.

Cause I knew though, that I remembered Picard mentioned Sarek's love for Amanda, and Spock.

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[zvi]

http://memory-alpha.com/ is better thank Wikipedia for TrekLore.

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[willow]

AOS?

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[zvi]

Alternate Original Series. One of the many acronyms people are trying on for this reboot.

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[zvi]

I wonder if, because of the Kelvin, the odds on the dangers of space travel changed in such a way that Sarek thought it prudent to bring Spock and Amanda with him more often?

[melannen]

I've been assuming that some of the difference is due to the much different contact history the Federation must have with Romulans - remember that in prime canon, Kirk's Enterprise crew were the first Federation people to "discover" that Romulans are related to Vulcans. With video footage of Nero & co showing up thirty-five years early (and whatever political mess that caused with the Romulan Star Empire), my guess is that both Vulcan self-image and their image in the rest of the Federation is a couple degrees off from TOS, and Spock would have changed in reaction to that.

Not that the movie seemed to have noticed the change in the history of Romulan contact, but it was what leapt to mind.

[zvi]

No! That makes a lot of sense. Especially since it might help defuse the notion in other species that Vulcans have no emotions. The Romulan example would show that Vulcans were perfectly capable of behaving emotionally, if they wanted to.

[azurelunatic]

And perhaps, given the alternative, that it was better for everyone that the Vulcans did not want to, in general.

[skywardprodigal]

Thanks for the recs. Especially Precious Things.

[zvi]

You're welcome. :)

[ishtar79]

I'm not a writer, but suddenly I desperate for some Spock/Uhura/Bones fic too.

[pocketmouse]

I definitely thought the direction they were going with AOS!Spock was more human than Vulcan. I'm wondering if the death of Amanda is going to accelerate that, or if the destruction of Vulcan will decelerate it. I'm betting that'll be a big thing in the next movie.
As for what's different, I'm pretty sure something since Nero's entry to the timeline has changed Sarek and Amanda's relationship, and hence both their relationships with Spock. Especially because everyone seems to know the ship was Romulan, so I wouldn't be surprised if Earth/Vulcan relationships are changed slightly.

[zvi]

I wouldn't say that the ratio was more human than Vulcan, but he certainly seemed comfortable with the humanity he has, which isn't quite the same thing.

Melannen mentioned that, since the Kelvin incident gets us earlier footage of Romulans, the Earth/Vulcan equation is probably changed, so, yeah, I think you're right.

[dragovianknight]

Thanks for the recs. Precious Things is killing me...killing me.

[gwenny]

I'm pretty sure none of these will become your #1 icon for ST but they are ST icons I made tonight so I hope you at least get a smile:

http://gweneiriol.livejournal.com/444982.html

[niciasus]

Thanks for recs.

AOS!Spock - yes - it was the first obvious difference between him and Prime Spock. His willingness to display emotions. I like this change in his character with balance of course.

[thingswithwings]

thanks very much for the recs!

[stellar_dust]

And Leonard is like, "The reason they don't want to sleep with you is, in no small part, because you say things like, 'Get in on that action', when referring to having sex with other sapient beings."

*sporfle* It's so true! And YES PLEASE to Spock/Uhura/Bones.

[teaphile]

For all that she was on screen for two seconds, I thought Amanda came off as more severe than Jane Wyatt's version. I also thought Spock and Sarek had a better relationship, though it's hard to say.

I really like the direction they've taken Spock, but I hope it doesn't conflict with the McCoy-Spock banter too much.

I would take you up on that threesome, but I in no way feel competent to write McCoy's voice yet. Or Kirk's. I'm still not confident about Uhura.

And thanks for the rec!

[ciaan]

Yes, I quite thought, wow, Sarek is being a good daddy, and not just all "Spock, you are not living up to my expectations and will never be satisfactory."